In this episode, the PPG Advocacy Panel discusses kind alternatives to shock and aversives. Your host/moderator: ⁠PPG Advocacy Task Force⁠ Chair Don Hanson Your panelists: Tasha Attwood, Judy Luther, Dayle Pierce, and Jennifer Van Valkenburg Relax and enjoy the discussion! Listen to the podcast here on a choice of platforms.  Or, you can click on the play button below to listen to the episode now! Recorded October 22, 2025. Find out more about future Advocacy Panel topics and dates.